This is a little example where i show how nice neutral admins the big and great clanbase has. read all of it to understand the situation. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hi, We have a little problem, We played on 30.11.2003 2on2 match against clan liekeissä(they change clan name now its devide http://www.clanbase.com/claninfo.php?cid=198442). Match was played and we won it. I placed the score on cb, but everytime i did it they changed it to their favour. They never asked for our demos neither they made a conflict of it. But now the match has disappeared They said to us that they know irl some cb admins, who will delete the match. How can this be happening?. We have all the demos of the match and server logs too. ...and here is the cb automessage that belongs to the match. ----- This is an automated message sent by ----- ------------- C l a n B a s e ------------------ --- for all your hardcore PC gaming pleasure --- The following CounterStrike match/challenge has been accepted: Opponent : lk (http://www.clanbase.com/claninfo.php?qid=XXXXXXXXXXX&cid=XXXXXX) Date : 30 Nov, 16:30 Ladder : CounterStrike 2on2 Level(s) : de_dust/de_nuke Server : Fury Eunet Type : Official War-id (wid) : 2571546 Comments from the other clan: what liekeissä clan said to us when we asked what they knew about the disappearing of the match. Blez is my clanmate(I will try to translate.) [19:59:47] tunnetaa adminei irl (Translation: we know several cb admins in real life) [20:00:39] ei digata olla luusereit (Translation: we dont want to be losers) [20:00:46] no sori mut te ootte (Translation: but you are) [20:01:11] sori mut ei olla (Translation: sorry but we are not) [20:01:12] Minkä takia muita matseja häviitte mut tota ei voinu(Translation: why you confirmed the other matches but not this one?) [20:01:16] :DD [20:01:20] ei kovimontaa pelii olla hävitty jos meet tonne cb skannaa.(Translation: We haven't lost many matches if you just take a look at the cb.) [20:01:28] no onko ihme?(Translation: is that a miracle?) I suggest to kick the admin who is resbosible to this! very lame!. our cb page is here: http://www.clanbase.com/claninfo.php?cid=306752 We allready tried to contact ladder admin, but he hasn't responsed to us. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- When i emailed that text about 10 times to many different admins, i got this message about a month later. Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2003 21:24:08 +0100 From: noreply@server1.clanbase.com To: blitzkrieg@xxxx.spam Subject: ClanBase: ladder feedback processed ! ----- This is an automated message sent by ----- ------------- C l a n B a s e ------------------ --- for all your hardcore PC gaming pleasure --- - Advertentie ---- Voor snelle en betrouwbare CounterStrike gameservers zie http://www.clanpoint.com Prijzen voor prive game servers vanaf ^Ā7,95 en publieke servers vanaf ^Ā55,00. - I reported a system bug with the higher placed admins, they will check it out, I have no ETA whatsoever so don\'t ask when it will be solved. Send me a mail and I will respond whenever the other admins respond. Bleah, Bleah@xxxxx.spam --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- And then i reply this back: Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2003 11:19:22 +0200 (EET) From: blitzkrieg@xxxxx.spam To: Bleah@xxxxx.spam Subject: ClanBase: ladder feedback processed ! Hi!, Nice to hear that somebody take some action to this. Do you need more info about this case? Thanks ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Then i get this!: Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2003 13:37:20 +0100 From: Bleah aka Jr To: blitzkrieg@xxxxx.spam Subject: Re: ClanBase: ladder feedback processed ! This is the respons from a higher placed admin: Either they agreed to cancel the match afterwards, or an admin cancelled it. Impossible to find out now, but it's much more likely that a clan member did it or that they were "hacked" (aka gave away their qid) than that an admin did it. Because the match is gone, it is also gone from our databases etcetera, so we cannot find out what really happened or do something about it, in name of ClanBase, my excuses for this. Greets, Bleah. blitzkrieg@xxxxx.spam wrote: >Hi!, > >Nice to hear that somebody take some action to this. >Do you need more info about this case? > >Thanks ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ then i got pissed off and replied this: Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2003 08:55:43 +0200 (EET) From: blitzkrieg@xxxxx.spam To: Bleah aka Jr Subject: Re: ClanBase: ladder feedback processed ! Yeah nice work cb. Admins are teenagers how delete they friends matches what they were lose. Try to catch out those admins plz. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- and the allmighty cb admin replies: Date: Thu, 01 Jan 2004 17:42:56 +0100 From: Bleah aka Jr To: blitzkrieg@xxxx.spam Subject: Re: ClanBase: ladder feedback processed ! Making these kinds of alligations and insults will lead to an ignore. Have a very nice new year and do not mail me again. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ok what you think about this? nice work from cb? come and comment Qnet #fury.fi blitzkrie or blitzi